Blog

More thoughts on God’s guidance

Saturday night my wife had some friends over, so I took a stack of books up to my room to read, think and study. I started out thinking about our Monday night explorations of God’s will for our lives, and looking through Elisabeth Elliot’s book A Slow and Certain Light (which is now published under the unimaginative title God’s Guidance). I ended up reading the whole thing, for a second time. I was more blessed this time than the first time I read it.

I want to recommend this book for any of you who want to do more exploring of the things we’re discussing on Monday nights. Elliot lays out some foundational spiritual principles for becoming the kind of people who can hear and know God’s guidance. I’ll post some of the most helpful quotes from the book over the next few weeks, but the whole thing is worth reading.

Below I’ve given her outline with some comments. Here’s a very helpful perspective on the leading of God in our lives.

What is Promised? That God Himself will be our guide.
Sometimes, Elliot writes, we think we just need God to answer one question that’s nagging us (like, Who will I marry?)– “There is just one thing we will have to ask God for, and we hope he will not find it necessary to sort through the other things…We know what we need – a yes or no answer, please, to a simple question. Or perhaps a road sign. Something quick and easy to point the way. What we really ought to have is the Guide himself. Maps, road signs, a few useful phrases are good things, but infinitely better is someone who has been there before and knows the way.” (p.20)
““I have found in the Bible plenty of evidence that God has guided people. I find, too, assurance that he is willing to guide me. He has been at it for a long time. His hand reaches toward me. I have only to take it.” (p.26)

The Conditions: What things should we see as necessary for us to know God’s guidance? ”

  1. The Recognition of Who God Is. On this topic, she writes: “The first condition is the recognition of God himself. It is not who does he think I am, but who do I think he is. I confess that after many years I am still having to go back often to this, to Lesson 1 in the school of faith. I forget what I learned. I start out on false premises; who I am, what I need, why my case is special, what I’m hoping for, what I pray for, or something – anything but the thing that matters most: who God is. To learn who he is we go to the Bible. The Bible is a book about God. It tells us all we need to know about him, and it shows us how he makes himself known to human beings.” (p.30)
  2. Belief. “Faith means, for one thing, believing what God says.” (p.36)
  3. The Obedience of Faith. “It is not reasonable to ask for guidance in one matter if we are aware that in another matter we have rejected guidance already given. Let us first go back, if possible, to where we turned away. If this is no longer possible, let us confess our sin. It may often be a ‘small’ thing in which we see that we have been disobedient, while it is a ‘big’ decision that we are asking guidance for, but it is the big thing that has stopped us, brought us to attention, and forced us back to God. If he asks us then about something smaller, we are given the chance to correct it. All our problems are theological ones, William Temple said. All of them have to do with our relationship to God and his to us, and this is precisely why it makes sense to come to God with them.” (p. 52)
  4. The Glory of the Name
  5. Making a Beginning
  6. Prayer and Fasting. She gives this this great practical note on praying for God’s guidance: “Sometimes, to make sure I don’t forget the details [when I pray], I make a list. The necessity of recalling all the things that have any bearing on my need for guidance – the pros and cons of all the possible courses which seem open, the circumstances which look to me significant, the reasons I have for wanting one thing above another – helps me to sort out exactly what it is I am asking. And sometimes, through this sorting, I see that I ought to ask something quite different. So Paul’s advice to tell God the details may actually contain the solution. The fact that I am telling God, too, makes them look different. It casts a different light. ‘In thy light shall we see light.’ All my muddle-headed thinking before I started praying was a waste of time and only kept me in the dark.” (p.46)
  7. One Man’s Cross. “What is that cross? It is, I believe, the thing required of me today. ‘Let him take up his cross daily,’ Jesus said, ‘and follow me.’ Some duty lies at my doorstep right now.” (p.50)

The Objectives: If God is guiding us, where is He guiding us too? What is our destination?

  1. The Father’s House. “We are going in the same direction–Home.” (p.61)
  2. His Name’s Sake
  3. Help for Others
  4. Commitment. “Without a clear understanding of the ultimate objective, the intermediate objectives make no sense to us. ‘Why this, Lord?’ we keep asking. But if we bear in mind that we shall, beyond any doubt whatsoever, finally dwell in the house of the Lord, settle down to stay in his presence, then the intermediate pastures and waters, even the valley of the shadow or the place of dragons, are understood. They are stations and landings along the journey, and they will not last long.” (p.69)
  5. Thanksgiving
  6. The Knowledge of Truth

The Means: How can we expect God to guide us?

  1. Supernatural Means. Elliot’s discussion of the supernatural ways (see list below) God Guides is excellent. And she includes helpful thoughts like these: “These examples are enough to illustrate what we would call the supernatural means. They may seem to us to have been used only in far-off times or faraway places, but this may be only because we ourselves are living, like the prodigal son, in a far country, trying to forget all about the Father’s house. It is much more in keeping with Christian faith and with Christian intelligence to acknowledge the possibility of miracles anywhere, anytime. But there is one thing we ought to notice about these miracles. When God guided by means of the pillar of cloud and fire, by the star of Bethlehem, by visitations of angels, by the word coming through visions and dreams and prophets and even through an insulted donkey, in most cases these were not signs that had been asked for. And when they were asked for, as in the case of Jehoshaphat and Ahab, they were not accepted. Supernatural phenomena were
    given at the discretion of the divine wisdom. It is not for us to ask that God will guide us in some miraculous way. If, in his wisdom, he knows that such
    means are what we need, he will surely give them.” (p.85)
    Visible Signs
         Audible Signs
         Angels
         Dreams and Visions
         Prophets
  2. Natural Means. This is maybe the strongest part of this strong book.
    Duty. “‘Do the next thing’ is one of the best pieces of advice I have ever had.” (p.87)
         Timing. “We will know when we need to, not before…I would always ask desperately to be shown God’s will but he never showed it to me until the time came. And when the time came, it was as clear as sunlight.” (p. 88)
          God Calls Us by Name
         Human Agents. “We ought to look first of all to those with whom we have some special relationship.” (p.95)
          Gifts and Abilities. “It is a Scriptural principle that the divine energy acts upon the stuff of this world…Common things take into divine hands accomplish divine purposes.” (p.97
         Desires
         Our Own Frame of Reference
         Circumstances
         Advice from Friends
         The Harder of Two Things

There’s a lot more, and, again, I suggest reading the whole book. I’ll be posting more extended quotes form it over the next few weeks.

The Way of Wisdom and the Renewed Mind (Notes from last night)

Last night we continued our study in how we can know God’s will for our lives. Here are the notes:

Finding God’s Will, Study 2 : Wisdom and the Renewed Mind
Knowing God’s will by learning to think like God. (Isaiah 55:8-9)

Wisdom

Wisdom: Knowing how to live and think in God’s world.  

Proverbs 3:19 — Wisdom is the way of God in the world. It’s in the very fabric of our reality. “The only wisdom by which you can handle everyday things in conformity with their nature is the wisdom by which they were divinely made and ordered.” (Derek Kidner) See also Proverbs 8:22-31.

Proverbs 2:1-9  — A large part of knowing God’s will is to begin to let him get our thoughts straight: He’s offering us the chance to start to think like Him, in order to understand the world as it truly is, and our place in it, and how it all relates to Him. This is a life-long process of letting God work in our thoughts.

1 Corinthians 1:18, 1:30, 2:6-16 — We have the mind of Christ, because the Spirit has been given to us. See also Romans 8:4-7  to look at the carnal mind vs. spiritual mind. God’s wisdom is totally opposite than the world’s way of thinking. And now, something has happened which lets us begin to have wisdom from God.

The Renewed Mind

Romans 12:1-2 —  The renewing of the mind. The continual process of letting the Holy Spirit do His work. See also Ephesians 4:17-24.

How does this actually work? We find ourselves growing in wisdom and having our minds renewed by the Holy Spirit as we daily pursue these three things:

  1. Scripture: see 2 Tim 3:14-17. God’s word is the scriptures, which make you wise.
  2. Godly counsel: Proverbs 19:20
  3. Prayer: James 1:5

Challenge: We’re called to a life-long pursuit of God in order to know His thoughts, and to yield to His work within us to renew our minds so that we think and act as we were created to—like God Himself! Let’s press in to this! Learning to think like God thinks is a key part of beginning to know what God’s will is for our lives.

Notes From Last Night…

Here are the notes from the study last night on finding God’s will. Click here to download the entire document that includes the list of verses on the will of God.

 Finding God’s Will / Study 1 / Doing What You Know

 Intro Questions:

 Why do you want to know God’s will for your life?

What is hard about trying to figure out God’s will?

What areas of life is this a concern for you?

 Small Groups: Seeing what Scripture says

 A: Verses that say specifically what God’s will is for us:

 1. 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8 – God’s will is that we’d be holy, especially in sexual purity.

What does Paul say is God’s will for us?

What specific area of life does he highlight?

Why do you think this area is highlighted as part of God’s will for our lives?

 2. 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 – God’s will is a life of joyful asking and thankfulness.

 What three things does Paul say are God’s will for us?

What kind of life does this describe?

What direction does this give you in knowing God’s will?

 3. 1 Peter 4:1-3 – God’s will is that we’d prefer suffering to sin. (also 4:19)

 What are the two “wills” Peter writes about?

How are they different?

So then, what kind of life does Peter say is God’s will for us?

B: Verses that tell us God’s plan in general:

 4. Romans 8:28-29 – God’s will is that we’d become like Jesus

 What does Paul say is God’s plan for us?

How does Paul say God is doing this?

How does this help us know God’s will for our lives?

 C: Verses that give us direct commands:

5. Matthew 6:33 + 28-18-20 – God’s will is that we’d seek His kingdom and Preach the Gospel

 Based on what Jesus says in these verses, what’s God’s will for us?

How does this help you know God’s will for your life?

 
Wrap up2 Last Scriptures and Applications

 Acts 2:36-38 What does God wants from usfirst? Repent. Be forgiven from sins. Be saved.

 Colossians 1:9. God is not a God who hides away, with some secret plan that He won’t tell us. He’s not playing games or seeing if we luck our way into figuring out what He wants from us. He’s not waiting for us to say some secret prayer or say the magic words. He’s a God who communicates clearly, and who has shown that He wants His people to know what He wants, and is able to show them.

 So: – We need to make it our goal to find out what He has already, clearly shown us.

– Then we need to go do those things.

– What things do you already know God wants of you? Is there anything you’re not doing?

– Instead of wasting time worrying about the things He hasn’t shown us yet, we can spend our lives being busy doing the things He has shown us. As we make it our aim to find out what He’s said, and then to do it, we’ll find the answers to the other questions becoming more clear.

 The key: It seems like God wants to refocus us from thinking about ourselves (“What does God want for my life?”) to thinking about Him (“What does God want?”). That kind of thinking leads us to all kinds of information and guidance.

Memorial Day Cookout on Monday

Starting at 6:30 (pm) this Monday night we’ll be together on the ball field in front of the church building. We’ll grill some things, play some volleyball, etc, and gather for a time worship and testimonies outside.

Bring a scripture to share that the Lord has been using in your life, or a story of how He worked over the last semester (if you were just at school).

Also, feel free to bring something to grill, or any food to eat or share. The more, the better!

See you there…

Home Groups Tonight.

Don’t forget, tonight we won’t be meeting at the church building. Instead, we’ll meet at two homes, one in Hatboro and one in Langhorne. If you want details and addresses, call Carli Milacci at the church office: 215-969-1520. See you next Monday for our Memorial Day Cookout!

Notes from last night…

Last night we looked at three passages that describe common fears we all have about life, and how the bible addresses those. Here are the notes, sparse as they are.

The Life Everyone Wants: And What the Bible Says about It

1. A life that won’t dry up. (Psalm 1) (see parallel: Jeremiah 17:5-8)

  1. Knowing who and what not to listen too (v.1)
  2. Delighting and meditating on God’s word. (v.2)
  3. You’ll be like a tree by rivers of waters. (v.3)

Make the things God says your biggest interest, and you’ll find an inner source of life that will never dry up.

2. A life that won’t crash and burn. (Matt 7:24-27)

1. Hearing what Jesus says, and actually doing those things. (v.24)
2. You will face storms, but you’ll have rock under your life. (v.25)
3. Your life will be like a house that won’t fall. (v.25)

     Put into action what Jesus taught, and you’ll have a rock under your life that can be built on.

3. A life that doesn’t miss out. (Matt 6:31-33)

1. Obeying Jesus by ceasing to worry. (v.31)
2. Thinking and acting like people who really have a heavenly father (v.32)
3. Making God’s aims your aims—seeking His kingdom (not your own…) (v.33)
4. You’ll find the things people worry about added to you. (v.33)

Key: We can’t dictate the terms to God. We can’t tell him what kind of life will fulfill us and what won’t. Instead—Let your thinking and living be shaped by God’s thinking, and you’re life won’t be missing anything.

Sum Up: Instead of letting worry, or finances, or social pressure, or media dictate our thoughts and our lives, we are called to care about and find out what God has said about everything: and then let His thoughts dictate our actual living in the real world. Then we’ll know a life that doesn’t end up dry and dead, end in disaster, or end up in regret.

 

 

See you tomorrow

Look for us from the Young Adults fellowship tomorrow. Let’s eat lunch together…

car show_banner

NOON to 6:00PM at CC Philly /Rain or Shine

Men, we invite you to come out and join us for an afternoon of food fellowship and great fun. Spend the afternoon listening to special guest speaker Dr. Randy Stinson and worship with the CC Philly worship team. Check out the car show or let your son or grandson take a shot at the Pinewood Derby Race or one of the many “state fair” style games. We will also be having a Chili Cook-Off, so enter your best Chili and lets put it to the test.  There will be prizes for the car show so get registered early!

Did God deceive us if the universe is younger than it looks?

Redeeming_ScienceI hope to have our next Forum on the ways Christians can think about and discuss the issues of modern science and the content of our faith. As any of you in college, technical careers, or basically any situation where you speak with informed people will be able to attest to, it’s another essential issue for us to be able to share the gospel in our day. As part of my preliminary preparation for thinking through these issues, I’m reading through Verb Poythress’ book Redeeming Science. While (as is the case with any book like this) I wouldn’t necessarily agree with every last detail of how he looks at these things, so far it is an immensely helpful book, and I recommend it for anyone in, or going into, any field related to science. Really, it’s just a good book for any of us to read.

Like just about all of Poythress’ books, he gives this one away for free if you want to download a pdf. You can get it here: Redeeming Science: A God-Centered Approach (pdf)

You’ll probably see a bunch of quotes from it here, since it’s so quite-worthy. Today and next week I’ll post two of his discussions of an interesting issue: Sometimes people say that if God had made the universe in any way other than by allowing it to actually take all 14 Billion years or so to develop (since that’s how old it appears to modern scientists) than He would have been deceiving us by creating a universe that looks older than it really is. Poythress has some great thoughts on this. Enjoy…

Consider [an] example of apparent age. Since the garden of Eden was a healthy garden, it seems logical to infer that it had a normal, healthy soil. Soil, as we now know it, contains decaying organic matter from dead plants. Bacteria and soil-dwelling creatures like earthworms work over this matter and contribute to making a healthy soil in which new plants grow. So the soil in the garden would have the necessary organic matter and the bacteria, even if God in fact prepared the garden and its soil over a period of seconds or hours rather than the many years that it takes to generate soil by gradual processes.

But now a more nuanced objection arises: mature structures are not a problem, but records or traces of earlier apparent events from an unreal (ideal) past are a problem. This kind of objection acknowledges that Adam and Eve were created mature, and that other items, like the soil in the Garden of Eden, or the trees in the garden, may have been created mature. A mature structure is not innately deceitful. But for the objector it still seems deceitful for a mature structure to contain within it evidence that appears to point to specific past events. For instance, if Adam had a belly button, it would point to a specific event in which as a newly born baby his umbilical cord had been cut. The presence of a belly button would therefore be deceitful, like a road sign pointing to a detour that was really just a dead-end street. Likewise, decaying organic matter in the soil, such as a piece of decaying oak leaf, would be deceitful because it would falsely point to earlier events involving the growth of the leaf on an oak tree and the dropping of the leaf to the ground. The trees in the garden of Eden could be full-sized. But the objector would not accept rings within the trunk indicating a succession of seasons, or a knot indicating where a branch had fallen off, because such things would deceitfully point to unreal events in an unreal past.

In reply, let us first observe that the analogy with a detour sign glosses over an important distinction. A detour sign, as a kind of symbolic extension of human language, involves a human commitment to express a symbolic meaning. We know what it means.

But a ring on a tree or a decaying leaf is not part of a human symbol system. It has meaning within the plan of God, but that meaning remains hidden in God until some human being discerns meaning and truth on the basis of the tree ring.

Meaning and truth, as symbol-laden realities, must be inferred, and the inferences always depend on a host of assumptions and a framework for interpretation. Precisely these assumptions and frameworks are in question when the theory of mature creation postulates a newly born mature world. Mature creation says that, given the doctrine of creation, we must not invoke our usual assumptions when examining alleged evidence for a remote past.

[Vern Poythess, Redeeming Science, p.118-119]